Legal Question in Bankruptcy in California

Notice of Default, Modification, & Bankruptcy

We got loan mod on 1st (WAMU), &

we're to make our 3rd of 3 pmts as

part of the forbearance 'trial period'

before the mod goes permanent. We

were trying to get a mod with

our 2nd (ETrade Bnk) so we could

stay in our home with our 6 kids.

The 2nd pulled a fast one and

charged off our debt, sending it to

the recovery dept right after we sent

our loan mod docs to them... making

a mod impossible. So now

we're forced to walk away b/c we

can't pay their recovery terms.

We planned on Ch. 7 BK w/ some

other debt and now will include the

house which will actually be a weight

lifted since it's worth 300K less than

the loans. (we're not doing lien strip

in ch. 13 b/c we can't do 3-5 yr plan

w/ 6 kids unexpected expenses).

We are trying to secure a rental &

the market is more competitive than

anticipated.

If our Notice of Default sale date

remains 6/24 unless 3rd pmt is rec'd

by 6/1, should we pay the June's

mortgage to buy a few more months

to find rental, or is the sale

process/eviction process slow?

Does default process reset once I

satisfy forbearance?

If I can do an emrgcy bk for auto.

stay, how much time until eviction?

Or should we save our cash?


Asked on 5/28/09, 2:27 am

2 Answers from Attorneys

David Gibbs The Gibbs Law Firm, APC

Re: Notice of Default, Modification, & Bankruptcy

First, let me caution you against an emergency Chapter 7 to stop the foreclosure. While its pretty clear that you are going to file for proper reasons - to discharge potential liability from the home and other debt - be very careful about using bankruptcy solely to delay a creditor such as the bank. Technically, that can be considered an abusive filing and could result in dismissal, denial of a discharge, etc... I'm not saying you cannot do it, just be careful. Additionally, "emergency" bankruptcy filings cost more, and are risky - you risk having your case dismissed if you cannot get everything filed within 14 days of filing the petition.

Second, I think your plan is a good one, and agree with Attorney Whitaker. Make the third payment, and lock in your loan modification. What that will hopefully do (and you need to carefully read the loan modification to determine this) is capitalize the other past-due amounts - meaning add it to the loan balance. At that point, you should no longer be in default and they start the process all over again. I would be more than happy to review the loan modification agreement with you, and begin planning for the bankruptcy filing. After reviewing documents, it will be much easier to answer your question as to timing.

One additional consideration in terms of filing the bankruptcy - you need to review with someone your means testing. Since you are going to stop making payments on the home, but will not yet be paying rent, you are limited to the IRS standardized expenses to reduce your monthly income (unless you are below median for your county). It would be very wise to sit with an attorney in the near future to go over this whole situation and route-out a course of action.

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Answered on 5/28/09, 12:32 pm
Brian Whitaker Lifeline Legal, LLP

Re: Notice of Default, Modification, & Bankruptcy

Make the 3rd payment to lock in your loan mod, and then file Chapter 7 to discharge all your unsecured debt as well as the second. They will still have a lien on your property, but there would be no reason for them to foreclose since they would receive nothing.

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Answered on 5/28/09, 3:32 am


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