Legal Question in Business Law in California

How to ''transfer'' my company from another state-or is it even necessary?

I formed an LLC about 2 years ago in Washington

state-where I lived and started the business at the time.

I now live in southern California and am looking to

establish the business' primary operations, etc. here

as well. I know that California law says that if I do

business or most of my business in California I have to

be set up here..... but in trying to figure out how to do

that all the books/guides/etc. refer to setting up

companies as if they are new or incorporating for the

first time. That's not the case with me and I can't figure

out how to ''move'' my company from Washington to

California. Do I have to pay the same fees as if I were

starting new? Seems like such a waste to have spent

hundreds to set up in Washington if I have to do that

again for CA. Since I'm already established is there a

special ''transfer'' process and/or set of fees? Also-am

I misunderstanding the requirements and I can just

leave my company's formation in Washington state? Is

there a need to move it?

Any help would be most appreciated! :)


Asked on 6/13/02, 5:51 am

3 Answers from Attorneys

Amy Ghosh Law Offices of Amy Ghosh

Re: How to ''transfer'' my company from another state-or is it even necessary?

Since your primary operation will be in CA...to take full advantage of the laws of this forum it is advisable to incorporate in CA...but you don't have to.

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Answered on 6/13/02, 10:43 am
Ken Koenen Koenen & Tokunaga, P.C.

Re: How to ''transfer'' my company from another state-or is it even necessary?

You will need to register the business with the Secretary of State's office, and pay their minimum "Franchise Fee", even if you maintain your business structure outside of California.

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Answered on 6/13/02, 12:12 pm
Bryan Whipple Bryan R. R. Whipple, Attorney at Law

Re: How to ''transfer'' my company from another state-or is it even necessary?

Your question relates to qualifying and operating a foreign LLC in California. ("Foreign" here means not organized under California law).

The first decision you have to make is whether to start over with a California LLC, or to qualify the Washington LLC here. In my opinion, unless the Washington LLC has established a history of operations (i.e. has had revenues, liabilities, filed tax returns, etc.) and/or you will do business in Washington in the future, you are better off dissolving the Washington LLC and forming a new California LLC. Over the years, the headaches and costs of running a two-state LLC with all the extra reporting requirements and complex multi-state tax returns will be a greater burden than making a fresh start.

The answer would be different if the Washington LLC had conducted significant operations anywhere in the past.

A foreign LLC applies for registration in California by filing a Form LLC-5 with the Calif. Secretary of State with a $70 filing fee. It is a one-page form downloadable from the Sec. of State website, along with the instructions.

Also review Calif. Corporations Code sections 17450-17457 regarding foreign LLCs doing business in California.

If you form a new California LLC, be sure to dissolve the Washington LLC according to Washington law. This can probably be accomplished by filing a simple form if the LLC has conducted no operations.

You can't just transfer an LLC from one state to another. You either qualify the existing one here, or you close the existing on and start a new one. The latter process comes the closest to being a 'transfer' but in fact it is a two-step process or maybe even a three-step process (open new LLC, transfer assets and liabilities, close old LLC).

Finally, there are fancy things you can do such as merging the Washington LLC into a California LLC, but you'd need lawyers for that, and for a startup or near-startup these concepts probably don't warrant consideration.

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Answered on 6/13/02, 3:32 pm


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