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tenant -rental agreement

i have 17 page m/m rental agreement. pages 15=16 are rules and regulations .pg 13 is where i signed that i have read them & agree to abide by them. The page startsout with the incorrect name of this place. 1st word is right 2nd is wrong. the rules describes things like strollers, toys, diaper service containers, swimming pool rules, trees, staircases, walls, balconys, brick dividers, lite poles, dumpsters, property owned BBQ'S, grassy areas, landscaped areas, &n resident manager. None of which there are any of here. All adults. in my 2+ years i cant recall even seeing children visiting. We live on the beach. not on it but right next to it. One of the rules at the end says ''all residents must comply with the laws of the u.s.,state of ca., and the city of -- -----. and the city mentioned is a city 15-20 miles from here. Obviously these are the r/r of another place, youd think the prop mgmt co would edit it to at least match this property somewhat. my question is; can i be wriitten up for rules violation? i agreed to abide by what i read but obviously ive not been to that place. Do we even have rules and reg for where i live since these are as i forementioned? The prop. mgmt here is quite the joke.

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Asked on 6/06/08, 8:19 am

4 Answers from Attorneys

Robert L. Bennett Law offices of Robert L. Bennett

Re: tenant -rental agreement

You will have to follow all rules and regulations that apply.

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Answered on 6/13/08, 12:00 pm
OCEAN BEACH ASSOCIATES OCEAN BEACH ASSOCIATES

Re: tenant -rental agreement

I am not sure of the nature of the dispute or question. Contact me directly.

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Answered on 6/06/08, 1:31 pm
Stanley Moerbeek The Law Offices of Stanley L Moerbeek

Re: tenant -rental agreement

Yes, you can be written up for a rules violation within limits. However, whether that action is enforcible is another matter. Most of the time tenants are given a 3 Day Perform Covenant or Quit notice which gives them the chance to cure their errant behavior. However, some behavior is not curable (i.e. crimes, etc.). In those cases it will be a 3 day Notice to Quit. Either way they'll have to file, serve, and obtain a judgment of eviction against you.

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Answered on 6/06/08, 1:35 pm
David Gibbs The Gibbs Law Firm, APC

Re: tenant -rental agreement

Thank you for providing such detailed information. Without a thorough review of your lease, its hard to definitively say that yes, the rules can be enforced; yes, they can be enforced, but only in a limited manner; or no, they cannot be enforced. What you are dealing with is a contract (lease) that "probably" incorporates those rules and regulations into the lease agreement by reference. As such, they could very likely be a part of your actual lease. As such, the lease may also have a provision that provides that if any part of the contract (lease) is deemed to be invalid (references to the wrong cities, etc...) then the remainder of the contract is still valid. Without fully reviewing the lease, its almost impossible to say with any certainty what they can do. I know property management companies very well, and can say with almost 100% certainty that most do a horrible job at details like this, but it will not stop them, as a previous response indicates, from taking legal action to enforce the rules as they see fit. You may have a perfectly valid defense to the rules, but it will likely require you to respond to a lawsuit, appear in court and very likely retain an attorney at your cost. I'd suggest that the practical alternative is to sit down with your property manager and ask about the discrepancies, and if there are a proper set of rules for the building that could be incorporated into a new lease agreement so you know what you are dealing with.

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Answered on 6/06/08, 2:47 pm


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