Legal Question in Real Estate Law in California

Can I keep the land?

I am seeking some advise on whether my uncle has a good chance in winning this case. The situation is this: my uncle purchased a new house in San Francisco more than three years ago. A few months ago, the house owner across from his back yard notified him that there are 18' of my uncle's back yard belong to them. When my uncle purchased the property, the fence line was already like that, and my uncle even improved the back yard from undeveloped land to landscaped area. When my uncle asked the seller who built and sold the house to him, the seller said he had owned the land for 9 yeard prior to subdividing the land and build two houses on it, and he just left the fence line where it was, never moved it.

According the deed, the land does belong to the house across the yard. And that owner is filing a lawsuit to claim back the land. So the question are: 1. does my uncle has a case and a good chance to not give back the land? 2. If he hires a lawyer to fight this case, will the cost of the lawyer fee be higher than the cost of the land itself? 3. Can my uncle suit the seller who sold him the property for the damages including the cost of lawyer fee and the lost of the land if he lost the case? Please advise.


Asked on 6/24/04, 4:13 pm

5 Answers from Attorneys

Michael Olden Law Offices of Michael A. Olden

Re: Can I keep the land?

You cannot really expect any attorney to give you any solid answer as to the chances of your father winning a case based upon a 16 lining question. Give me a break. You should take your father to an attorney with specialized in real estate laws that litigation with all of his paperwork and have the attorney explained to your father his alternative. More likely than not your father is not paying any taxes on that together questionable piece of property. What he does have though he is eight constructive or perscriptive easement to continue to using utilize the property without having paid or. Now Howell in the hat when I know whether the attorney will charge more than the property is worth. Property in San Francisco is worth a lot but if you're out in the avenues versus on Twin Peaks, there is a sense and shall amount difference in cost per square foot. Give me another break. So follow my advice, higher-end attorney to give you the alternatives and estimates cost and in deal with it, accordingly.I have been practicing law in the San Francisco Bay area for approximately 35 years and expert in the area in the category in which your question is placed. I feel I can help you in this matter and if you wish to consult with me please contact me at 925-945- 6000.

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Answered on 6/25/04, 7:25 pm
Ken Koenen Koenen & Tokunaga, P.C.

Re: Can I keep the land?

Your uncle may win the case based upon advers possession. Also, both the seller and the title company could have liability to him.

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Answered on 6/24/04, 5:24 pm
Bryan Whipple Bryan R. R. Whipple, Attorney at Law

Re: Can I keep the land?

I think the answers are:

1. The court will probably say the land belongs to the neighbor if the assessments and tax bills show the neighbor has been paying the property taxes on the disputed strip of land. If, however, it is clear from the assessed values and other facts that your uncle (and the previous owner) was assessed and has paid the taxes, there may be a change of title to your uncle under the theory of adverse possession. Even if the neighbor has paid the taxes, your uncle might be able to assert an easement by prescription, but this is by no means certain.

2. If the presence or absence of the 18' strip of land affects the desirability of the property, it is probably worthwhile to retain a lawyer to at least study the suit, the deeds, and the tax records (and so forth) and give you an assessment of the chances of prevailing. This is especially true if the property is in San Francisco, where land values are high and small changes in a lot size may change a property's value by tens of thousands of dollars.

3. Such a suit could certainly be filed in good faith after checking the basic facts and timing issues re the statute of limitations. Again, predicting whether it has a 10% or 90% chance of success requires a little investigation of what was disclosed at the time of sale and other matters.

Keep in mind that cases like this can often be settled before going to trial, and an effective lawyer can contribute to both sides understanding their positions and obtaining settlement in the shortest possible time at the least possible cost.

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Answered on 6/24/04, 5:29 pm
Larry Rothman Larry Rothman & Associates

Re: Can I keep the land?

You may have a case, but it depends on your documentation. We will have to review any surveys you have, title reports, escrow instructions, and other writings. Please contact our office on Monday morning at 714 363 0220 for review of your documentation. We handle cases throughout California.

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Answered on 6/26/04, 12:22 pm
Donald Holben Donald R. Holben & Associates, APC

Re: Can I keep the land?

You will likely never own the land. If real property is used in an open and notorious manner for 5 years, a prescriptive easement can be created. Need more facts. Would recommend you contact attorney in San Francisco to sort it out. While I would be happy to help, I am in San Diego and Palm Springs.

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Answered on 6/25/04, 5:33 pm


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