Legal Question in Wills and Trusts in California

I recently had a new will and trust prepared after a divorce. I am unclear about some assets that should go into it. I know, I know, I should ask my attorney, but asking him a question is like, "Who's on first?", and this type of back and forth creates billing time for him.

My house is already in the trust. With respect to life insurance, there is a differing opinion, i.e., "the trust should not be the owner on your life insurance if your estate may be more than $625,000 at your death." While I don't have insurance on myself, I am paying for a policy on my ex-husband, and I am the owner as the Trustee and the Trust is the beneficiary.How does this $625,000 statement figure into the picture?

With respect to vehicles, again, there is a difference of opinion, e.g., transfer ownership of vehicles with caution...it can be difficult to insure...", transfer vehicles into the trust."

Bank accounts again have a difference of opinion, e.g., "transfer all bank accounts", "transfer all bank accounts expcept for your personal account."

Does my Ira belong in the trust?

I'm getting really confused, and any help will be appreciated.


Asked on 7/18/10, 5:16 pm

3 Answers from Attorneys

Michele Cusack Pollak & Cusack

The main purpose of the living trust is to avoid probate. Assets with a valid beneficiary designation (life insurance and IRAs, some bank accounts- make sure the beneficiar(ies) are is who you want to be) do not need to be part of the trust. Car and checking can stay out of trust if they add up to less than $100,000.

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Answered on 7/18/10, 8:26 pm
George Shers Law Offices of Georges H. Shers

Just to elaborate, life insurance passes to the named beneficiary immeditely upon yuor death so it is not part of your estate. Thus there is no need to avoid probate for it because it is not there to probate. Unless there is some advantage in having an asset in a trust [there is the general advanatage of perhaps securing it from a judgment against you--but for most people asset protection is not that important], why put it into one.

Your e-mail give the impression that you would be able to understand what is related in legal books written for non-attorneys, such as the Nolo Press series that can be found in most libraries. You should read those books so that you can have a better understanding of what is going on. If the best attorney sometimes makes mistakes or fails to cover everything. It will allow you to ask your attorney more exact questions, such as "if McCovey is playing first with Jimmie Davenport at third and Stu Miller on the mound, with a runner at first, which side of the infield do I lay the suicide squeeze bunt down on."

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Answered on 7/18/10, 10:28 pm

I would just add that most trusts are worthless for asset protection purposes, because they need to be revokable. Lenders won't loan, and will default existing loans, in most cases when real estate or other assets are put into an irrevokable trust. So unless you need and can pay for a major asset protection plan structure put together by a very sophisticated attorney, and funded by a lot of cash and sophisticated private banking of any loans, forget meaningful asset protection from a trust.

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Answered on 7/19/10, 9:45 pm


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