Legal Question in Traffic Law in Georgia

Can a police officer legally demand you to step out of your car during a traffic stop for no reason other than a traffic violation? I am familiar with the US supreme court ruling in Pennsylvania v. Mimms. However, I am unsure if that ruling gives legal authority to police officers in every state and county to exercise that demand or just in Pennsylvania. Thank you!


Asked on 5/04/15, 3:18 pm

2 Answers from Attorneys

Glen Ashman Ashman Law Office also dba Glen Ashman Attorney

Yes they can.

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Answered on 5/04/15, 6:22 pm
Ralph Villani VILLANI LAW FIRM

Glen is absolutely right

In fact, a police officer order EVERYONE out of the vehicle during a traffic stop.

The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. Generally, this rule is enforced by requiring police officers to obtain warrants in order to search or seize people. However, the Supreme Court of the United States has added many exceptions to the warrant requirement. Additionally, it has expanded the bounds of �reasonableness� in several areas where it has decided that a person�s right to privacy must be balanced with the fact that police officers have an inherently unsafe occupation.

In the seminal case Terry v. Ohio, 392 US 1 (1968) the Court carved out an exception to the warrant requirement which allows officers to briefly detain people for investigative purposes when there is an reasonable articulable suspicion of criminal activity. These stops are known as �Terry Stops.� During these stops, if the officer has some reasonable articulable suspicion that the person may be armed and dangerous, the officer may perform a brief, over-the-clothes pat down of the person. This pat down is known as a �frisk.�

In Arizona v. Johnson, 129 S. Ct. 781, 784 (2009), the court stated that once a law enforcement officer has conducted a valid traffic stop, the officer is justified in conducting a frisk of the person for weapons if the officer reasonably suspects that the person stopped is armed and dangerous. Id. Commonwealth v. Smith, 281 Va. 582, 589 (2011).

[I]n a traffic-stop setting, the first Terry condition � a lawful investigatory stop�is met whenever it is lawful for police to detain an automobile and its occupants pending inquiry into a vehicular violation. The police need not have, in addition, cause to believe any occupant of the vehicle is involved in criminal activity. To justify a patdown of the driver or a passenger during a traffic stop, however, just as in the case of a pedestrian reasonably suspected of criminal activity, the police must harbor reasonable suspicion that the person subjected to the frisk is armed and dangerous.

Id.

In Arizona v. Johnson, the Court summarized the expanded rule from Terry as it applies to traffic stops:

Three decisions cumulatively portray Terry�s application in a traffic-stop setting: Pennsylvania v. Mimms, 434 U.S. 106 (1977) (per curiam); Maryland v. Wilson, 519 U.S. 408 (1997); and Brendlin v. California, 551 U.S. 249 (2007).

In Mimms, the Court held that �once a motor vehicle has been lawfully detained for a traffic violation, the police officers may order the driver to get out of the vehicle without violating the Fourth Amendment�s proscription of unreasonable searches and seizures.� 434 U.S., at 111, n. 6.

Wilson held that the Mimms rule applied to passengers as well as to drivers. Specifically, the Court instructed that �an officer making a traffic stop may order passengers to get out of the car pending completion of the stop.� 519 U.S. at 415.

It is true, the Court acknowledged, that in a lawful traffic stop, �[t]here is probable cause to believe that the driver has committed a minor vehicular offense,� but �there is no such reason to stop or detain the passengers.� Id. On the other hand, the Court emphasized, the risk of a violent encounter in a traffic-stop setting �stems not from the ordinary reaction of a motorist stopped for a speeding violation, but from the fact that evidence of a more serious crime might be uncovered during the stop.� Id., at 414. �[T]he motivation of a passenger to employ violence to prevent apprehension of such a crime,� the Court stated, �is every bit as great as that of the driver.� Ibid. Moreover, the Court noted, �as a practical matter, the passengers are already stopped by virtue of the stop of the vehicle,� id., at 413-414, so �the additional intrusion on the passenger is minimal,� id., at 415.

Completing the picture, Brendlin held that a passenger is seized, just as the driver is, �from the moment [a car stopped by the police comes] to a halt on the side of the road.� 551 U.S., at 263. A passenger therefore has standing to challenge a stop�s constitutionality. Id., at 256-259.

After Wilson, but before Brendlin, the Court had stated, in dictum, that officers who conduct �routine traffic stop[s]� may �perform a �patdown� of a driver and any passengers upon reasonable suspicion that they may be armed and dangerous.� Knowles v. Iowa, 525 U.S. 113, 117-118 (1998). That forecast, we now confirm, accurately captures the combined thrust of the Court�s decisions in Mimms, Wilson, and Brendlin.

The answer is clear that an officer can order all occupants of a vehicle out of the car pending the completion of the stop if the initial stop was lawful. The reasoning behind these rules is almost always the same: officer safety. What is not so clear is what the officer can do then.

For example, officers are limited in their right to frisk the occupants of the vehicle. They are also limited in how much and what kind of investigations they can complete during the course of the stop. Finally, even if an officer can arrest an individual, there are limits on how much force the officer can use in the process of the arrest.

The rules governing the protection of citizens from unreasonable search and seizure are, at best, vague. If you are charged with a crime and feel that a police officer has violated your right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, call an experienced criminal defense attorney today.

(Borrowed from Attorney Hill - who gets all of the credit for this)

Good Luck

Ralph

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Answered on 5/05/15, 5:39 am


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