Legal Question in Wills and Trusts in Virginia
Settling of Real Estate (Heir Property)
My grandmother has learned that property she believed that was her's is titled in her mother's name and listed by tax records as the heirs (8 children). She thought that she bought the property at a tax sale three years after the estate was administered by her in 1970. I checked the records and only a deed from 1946 in her mother's name exist. No records of a tax sale exist and the tax bill reads Estate c/o of my grandparents. They have paid the taxes & insurance since 1956.
BTY - The family fought over $3,000 when the house burned down in 1969 (3 acres). Each got 1/8 when the estate was closed (insurance).
The question is how do we obtain a clean deed my grandmother wishes to give the property to me. I thought about a Power of Attorney to Settle the Estate giving me the authorization to obtain a clean deed. Currently 4 of the siblings are alive, three spouses of the sibling, and two children of the final siblings are alive. If they all agree to sign is this the right course of action or is it a better method. If they all agree should I give them more than the $1.00 and love & consideration ? I can write the agreement myself...and then have an attorney obtain the deed. But, what if they don't wish to sign ?
2 Answers from Attorneys
Re: Settling of Real Estate (Heir Property)
You say you can write the agreement yourself to resolve this prima facially complicated land title-inheritance situation. When did you last sit for and pass the bar exam in the Commonwealth of Virginia? Furthermore, any attorney who would be foolish enough to attempt to fashion a deed for this dubious operation under your direction should probably be the subject of disbarment proceedings.
Your arrogant and misconceived notions and proposals to resolve this matter are truly absurd and I must say, in some measure offensive(in their potential for harm).
Go see a lawyer who knows about real property and probate matters in the city/county where the property is located and forget about trying to play lawyer on your own with a matter that could have very adverse consequences if not handled in the legally correct manner not only for you but for other members of your family, and, if not immediately, then very likely at some future time.
Re: Settling of Real Estate (Heir Property)
Although I try to give meaningful answers as much
as possible on this board, I think that this is
one situation that is more complicated than the
usual question, and I recommend an attorney. If
you were not so far away, I would stronlgy urge
you to come and I would be happy to take the case.
First, your suggestion depends upon everyone
agreeing, which might not work. It also is
tricky enough that I would not try to do it
yourself. I have a client who has spent over
$20,000 litigating the purchase of a house
instead of spending a few hundred dollars to have
a lawyer write up the sales contract.
Second, advertising the problem to the other
heirs might just invite trouble. While this is
the reverse of my normal advice, it might be
better to just file a suit to "quiet title" and
have them not respond, then to beg for their
signature and have them get ideas.
Third, it is NOT inconistent that your
grandmother bought the property at a tax sale
yet the deed record were never updated. It was
really your grandmother's responsibility after
buying the house at a tax sale to record a new
deed. If she did not do so, it does not make her
purchase invalid. But there might not be a
record of it.
The problem will be that your grandmother will
need records to prove what happened. And that
could be a big problem. The problem is not her
rights under the law. The problem is proving
the facts of what actually happened. She should
search for anything she can find along those
lines, whether in her papers or in official
records. Don't overlook the Commissioner of
the Accounts and the probate section of the court.
Fourth, there is another possibility, a legal
principle called "adverse possession." Under
this legal rule, if you claim property as your
own for more than 15 years, any one else's claim
to the property is cut off. It is essentially a
statute of limitations. No claim against your
grandmother's interest can be brought when late.
However, there are half a dozen tricks and trap
doors in "adverse possession." For example, if
you use property with PERMISSION of the true
owners, that doesn't count. Your grandmother
would have to prove that her claim of right
was both (a) known by and (b) adverse to any
claim by the other heirs. The tax sale might
help show that.
So, I would recommend a suit "to quiet title"
based on both the tax sale and/or adverse possession.