Legal Question in Real Estate Law in California

Los Angeles, CA - Sellers own 2 adjacent parcels, lets say parcel A and parcel B. Each parcel has a house on land. I am buyer, buying parcel B.

Sellers indicate fence may be encroaching. We agreed to split the cost of the survey and land marking, to determine where the fence lies in relation to boundaries, as well as other corner boundaries. We also agree to split cost of removing/replacing fence if it is encroaching.

If fence is out of bounds by 6 inches or less, is it still encroaching?

We are each more concerned with future sale issues that might arise (ie, when I decide to sell the lot that may have the fence out of bounds and/or encroaching, rather than the exact location of the fence.

How does de minimis factor into our concerns?


Asked on 4/25/14, 1:44 pm

2 Answers from Attorneys

Encroachment is encroachment. If you both are happy with where the fence is, the simplest thing to do is for the other owner to grant an easement for the encroaching fence and record that with the county recorder. That will and formalize your right and the rights of all future owners of your parcel to keep the fence where it is. The other alternative is to move it. There are a few other options, such as a formal lot line adjustment, but they would be far more trouble than they would be worth, compared to the two options I have mentioned.

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Answered on 4/25/14, 1:49 pm
Bryan Whipple Bryan R. R. Whipple, Attorney at Law

I agree with Mr. McCormick. "De minimis" might be a valid concept to apply to kiss off the discrepancies between the fence location and the true lot line if these were 1000-acre ranches, but I assume we're talking urban lots, and six inches plus-or-minus is plenty sufficient to result in a lawsuit if and when the neighbors get grouchy, or someone needs a permit for his new garage, or whatever. I think a recorded easement drafted by an attorney with real property and easement experience is a sound solution, but moving the fence also makes some sense if (a) it is easily moved, and (b) you have a survey or can get one at reasonable relative cost.

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Answered on 4/25/14, 9:04 pm


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