Legal Question in Criminal Law in California

Does an off duty border patrol agent have legal authority to detain someone and initiate an arrest? Im in san diego,ca & the agent approached the vehicle while parked in public parking lot.He shined his light in the car,displaying his badge,&announcing himself as an officer ordering them out of the car.In which he then pulled them out,had them up against the car while he searched their persons,emptied their pockets,&collected their IDs.He instructed them to sit on the curb (which they thought they were already basically arrested) while he radioed it in & detained them for police arrival. The incident started because he claimed to have seen 1person in the car smoking a pipe (however it was pitch black in an unlit parking lot at the beach, & he would've had to be able to see through his tinted window & their car window, in complete darkness, from 2 parking stalls away (maybe 15ft), which doesn't sound very probable to me. Is the way he proceeded legal & is there anyway to use this to fight the case? 0


Asked on 2/12/12, 12:49 pm

5 Answers from Attorneys

Glen Fleetwood Mister DUI-800-468-2-502

Yes.

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Answered on 2/12/12, 1:56 pm
Glen Fleetwood Mister DUI-800-468-2-502

The way to challenge this is with a 1538.5 motion, a pretrial motion to suppress. San Diego? Rick Mueller is your man. By the way, was a pipe found in the car?

It wastes your time to claim he could not have seen what they later found in the car. It defies sense to think he had no reason at all, could see nothing, and just hoped he would find something that would justify his taking his time off to do an unlawful arrest and search. WHAT DID HE SMELL? Did the pipe have fire in it? That lights up the car.

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Answered on 2/12/12, 2:00 pm
Brian McGinity McGinity Law Office

The Border Patrol is a Federal Law Enforcement agency with the powers and authority to arrest. They have plenty of authority to initiate contact under the facts you have described. However, that doesn't mean everything the officer did was done correctly. In fact, a lot of mistakes can and do get made during an arrest. You need an attorney. Since you did not provide any specific information as to charges it is difficult to provide you with any real information.

The 1538.5 motion, suggested by Mr. Fleetwood is an excellent idea.

Good luck

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Answered on 2/12/12, 4:16 pm
Joe Dane Law Office of Joe Dane

In what you wrote, it sounds like there were tons of procedural errors by the officer. Does he have the authority? Any person has the authority to detain another if they are effecting a citizens arrest, but by him badging himself, he is now under the rules governing searches by peace officers. You don't say what was found, but based on his conduct, I think a motion to suppress would be an appropriate thing to do.

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Answered on 2/12/12, 5:39 pm
Terry A. Nelson Nelson & Lawless

Sworn law enforcement personnel are 'on duty' 24/7.

Of course you can fight any criminal charges. There may be grounds for procedural violation arguments. When arrested or charged with any crime, the proper questions are, can any evidence obtained in a test, search or confession be used against you, can you be convicted, and what can you do? Yes, you can raise all appropriate defenses with whatever witnesses, evidence and sympathies are available for legal arguments, for evidence suppression or other motions, or for trial. If you don't know how to represent yourself effectively against an experienced prosecutor intending to convict, then hire an attorney that does, who will try to get a dismissal, diversion program, reduction, or other decent outcome through plea bargain, or take it to trial if appropriate.

If serious about hiring counsel to help in this, and if this is in SoCal courts, feel free to contact me. I�ll be happy to help, using whatever defenses there may be.

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Answered on 2/12/12, 8:23 pm


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