Legal Question in Wills and Trusts in New York
Guardianship of a Minor
I live in Virginia. My father (who recently passed away) lived in Queens, NY. He had opened several bank accounts in NY for his grandchildren (i.e., my children -both minors). He opened the accounts as In Trust for with him obviously as the prinicipal owner. I was told by the banks that I needed to establish guardianship to get the accounts changed. My basic question is - can this be done in Virginia surrogate court, or must it be done soley in NY? Thanks for your help.
4 Answers from Attorneys
Re: Guardianship of a Minor
That's a good question and frankly I am not sure. The idea is to have someone protect and administer the funds until the children attain majority.
Ask the bank attorney as well as the clerk of the Surrogate's Court in Queens County.
Re: Guardianship of a Minor
You may have been given wrong or misinformation by the New York bank. If you're the natural parent of the children, it makes little sense as to why you should now have to go through some kind of guardianship proceeding in a court in order to claim these funds for your children. Your legal status as a parent with respect to your children already exceeds that of a mere guardian and with that should come your capability to act as their fiduciary for these funds.
You would, I believe, be well advised to contact the executor of your deceased father's estate to
determine how best these funds may be transferred
into your custody for the benefit of your children who are your deceased father's intended beneficiaries.
Re: Guardianship of a Minor
I probably agree with Michael, that as the natural parent of the beneficiaries of the accounts, your parenthood should be sufficient. However, the bank is being technical and many times a formal court declaration is necessary. If this is actually required, it would be a simple procedure in your state of residence, not NY, as they have no jurisdiction over your family. A simple application is probably all that is needed, on a Complaint for Guardianship that spells out the reasons for the appointment and your entitlement to be appointed.
Re: Guardianship of a Minor
First, let me say that if you live in Virginia,
and your children live with you in Virginia, then
your family relationship with your children must
(and can) be done in Virginia by Virginia's courts. (Only NY has surrogate courts. Virginia has juvenile and domestic relations courts.)
Second, I think the bank is wrong. If these are
your children, you do not need anything more
than evidence that you are their parent. A
guardian is someone OTHER THAN a parent who is
given the power of a parent. Technically, a
parent cannot be a guardian because a parent is
ALREADY the parent, and ALREADY has the power of
a parent. Therefore, it is absurd to ask a
parent to show that they are a guardian. It is
enough to show that the parent is a parent.
As a result, I think it would be impossible to
go into any court and get any decision appointing
you as a guardian, because that would only give
you the power of being a parent, which you already are!
The only exception might be if you are divorced
and there is a question about WHICH parent has
primary custody. You might have to prove this.
Therefore, I think that you simply need to prove
to the bank that you are the parent.
And if they won't accept that, then you may have
to sue them to enforce your rights. Most banks
are big enough that you could sue them in
Virginia, not only in New York, if they do
business in Virginia.